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  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Jordi ESCRIU replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Thank you all for your good discussion. Answering the former qustion from Fanny, "As I can not find anything about point cloud data in the Elevation specfication I am even wondering if they are out of  scope", regardless point... view reply
  • George Spoelstra
    George Spoelstra replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Hi Kathi, Thanks for your feedback.I can confirm that today the SeaDataNet CDI's pass the Inspire validator test and are therefore fully Inspire compliant. The following is from the SeaDataNet site: " More recently (December 2019),... view reply
  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Dear all, a bit of technical clarification (based on my experience mapping data from the SeaDataCloud project to INSPIRE data specifications a few years ago) CDI files are based on the ISO 19115 standard for spatial metadata, same standard... view reply
  • George Spoelstra
    George Spoelstra replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    When I re-read Marc's comment I do believe that he is using GML in relation to the CDI's (GML is of course a flavour of XML). In the CDI there is a coverage polygon or trackline defined so the CDI contains a mbit of GML as well. Hence the... view reply
  • Fanny LECUY
    Fanny LECUY replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Hi George, Sorry, I forgot that if you deliver BAG it is with a GML for the domain set and that is why I got it confused with the vector elements of the spec. I am not yet a master of the coverage subjet in INSPIRE. Fanny view reply
  • George Spoelstra
    George Spoelstra replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Hi Fanny, The CDI's Mark is referring to are not the data holders as such but contain the metadata. This is INSPIRE compliant metadata and included in the CDI Data Discovery and Access service as adopted and adapted for EMODnet Bathymetry... view reply
  • Fanny LECUY
    Fanny LECUY replied on the discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Hello, I work for the french hydrographic office and I am currently working on our bathymetric data conversion. We mainly have DTMs and point cloud data (I guess the CDIs mentioned by Mark) from surveys that are used for the EMODnet european... view reply
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  • Johanna Ott
    Johanna Ott replied on the discussion topic EL GridCoverage Model - CV_Grid:extent or CV_Grid:limits
    Hi everybody, After the next iteration of implementing the described combined WCS-WFS workaround, I still have one more rather basic question on how this can be realized in an INSPIRE-interoperable way. As described before, the plan is to... view reply
  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Jordi ESCRIU added a new discussion topic Which are the issues on INSPIRE compliance of EMODnet Bathymetry CDIs?
    Dear community members, As highlighted by Marc Roesbeke as a comment to the page dedicated to the EMODnet Bathymetry project, "The ideal would be for European EMODnet member states to be able to deliver the created CDIs with...
    • Katharina SCHLEIDT

      By Katharina SCHLEIDT

      Dear all,

      a bit of technical clarification (based on my experience mapping data from the SeaDataCloud project to INSPIRE data specifications a few years ago)

      • CDI files are based on the ISO 19115 standard for spatial metadata, same standard as is used for metadata under INSPIRE
      • Some additional fields have been defined for the CDI extension, hosted by seadatanet.org. Unfortunately, at least in the version my examples use, this schmema file has issues (it imports ISO schema components from an invalid URL)
      • While the CDI files do contain a bit of GML, this is purely metadata, providing information on spatiotemporal extent of the data being provided (same as INSPIRE metadata)
      • One should probably to a check to assure that all metadata elements specified for INSPIRE are contained in the CDI files (many elements required by INSPIRE are optional in the ISO 19115 standard, may not be contained within the CDI)

      To my understanding, as long as the potential issues in the last point are covered, it should be possible to provide CDI files as INSPIRE metadata. The data the CDI files are describing should then be provided in accordance with the relevant INSPIRE Data Specifications (Elevation Model (EL) for Bathymetry, Oceanographic Features (OF) and Environmental Monitoring Facilities (EF) for marine measurement data

      Hope this helps

      :)

      Kathi

    • George Spoelstra

      By George Spoelstra

      Hi Kathi,

      Thanks for your feedback.I can confirm that today the SeaDataNet CDI's pass the Inspire validator test and are therefore fully Inspire compliant. The following is from the SeaDataNet site:

      " More recently (December 2019), activities have been concluded in discussion and cooperation with the INSPIRE team at EU-JRC to update the CDI XML coding in full compliance with the latest INSPIRE ISO19139 metadata schema. This can be validated using the latest version of the new ETF validator of INSPIREWhereby one has to select metadata for interoperability as the target conformance class."

      The questin from Fanny as far as I understand was more about the somewhat cryptic description in an original comment from Marc Roesbeke from the Flamish Hydrography about the coding of CDI data. 

      Cheers 

       

      George

    • Jordi ESCRIU

      Thank you all for your good discussion.

      Answering the former qustion from Fanny, "As I can not find anything about point cloud data in the Elevation specfication I am even wondering if they are out of  scope", regardless point clouds are not covered as a common data format in the INSPIRE Data specification on Elevation, bathymetry vector data is totally in the scope of INSPIRE (see the mentioned "Vector Elements" schema - "Spot Elevation" spatial object).

      Therefore, if you are working with bathymetry data sets in point cloud format, such data sets are in the scope of INSPIRE and they are candidates to be transformed and provided for INSPIRE according the rules defined in the Directive.

      In my view, the original post from Mark Roesbeke here (let me remember his closing sentence: "The ideal would be for European EMODnet member states to be able to deliver the created CDIs with the associated BAG files for both the INSPIRE Data Portal and the EMODnet Data Portal. Less work for the hydrographic organizations") does not only refer to CDI metadata file but also the bathymetry data (BAG files) described by them.

      Concluding, it would be really helpful if you (ALL) could share with the community any issues you may have encountered while transforming your bathymetry data sets for the purpose of the INSPIRE Directive.

       

  • Marc ROESBEKE
    Marc ROESBEKE commented on a page titled EMODnet Bathymetry
    Jordi, Thank you for the clear description of the EMODnet Bathymetry project. EMODnet Bathymetry strives INSPIRE compliance for its range of services. Even more important is compliance with INSPIRE, since CDI metadata and CPRD metadata...
  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Thank you to you, Massimo! As a result, I proceed to close this topic. All the best. view reply
  • Massimo Spinelli
    Dear All, Sorry for my delay Sure, my doubts have been resolved and I would like to thank everyone. Best regards Massimo view reply
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  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Dear Massimo, Let us know if you resolved your questions / doubts or you need extra information / input. If not I will proceed to close this discussion topic. All the best Jordi view reply
  • Peter BAUMANN
    Hi all, being editor of most of the CIS/WCS documents let me comment here: From recent discussion under the OGC, there seem to be some consensus on handling the Vertical CRS description in the ‘rangeType’ component of GMLCOV...
  • Peter BAUMANN
    Hi all, just to add: - for CRS definitions, OGC operates a CRS resolver which is described at this wiki: http://external.opengeospatial.org/twiki_public/CRSdefinitionResolver/WebHome . It delivers the CRS definition for the usual EPSG suspects... view reply
  • Anja Loddenkemper
    Dear Massimo, dear all, I have tried to start the discussion about grid systems in Germany in October 2017, but everybody seemed to agree to what I found out and so there simply was not discussion about it any more. Everybody read and kept... view reply
  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Jordi ESCRIU created a page EMODnet Bathymetry
    EMODnet Bathymetry   Title (Project name): EMODnet Bathymetry Owner: EMODnet (European Marine Observation and Data Network). Geographical scope: European sea regions and coastal areas. Abstract: The EMODnet...
    • Marc ROESBEKE
      Marc ROESBEKE
      Jordi, Thank you for the clear description of the EMODnet Bathymetry project. EMODnet Bathymetry strives INSPIRE compliance for its range of services. Even more important is compliance with INSPIRE, since CDI metadata and CPRD metadata...
  • Jordi ESCRIU
    Jordi ESCRIU commented on a page titled Workshop “Feel the power of INSPIRE WCS / WCPS in your hands”
    The amended schemas proposed to be used as INSPIRE good practice for implementing INSPIRE Coverage data are enumerated below: 1) Use plain OGC CIS1.0 schema to implement INSPIRE coverages: http://schemas.opengis.net/cis/1.0/ 2) Use the...
Elevation, Ortho & Grids

Elevation, Ortho & Grids

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