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  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic Model of tide currents in INSPIRE?
    Hi Fanny, if you do find something worthwhile, could you please share? Thanks! :) Kathi view reply
  • Fanny LECUY
    Fanny LECUY replied on the discussion topic Model of tide currents in INSPIRE?
    Hi Kathi, Thank you for the very prompt answer. Yes, the data is not measured but generated by a model. The result is a collection of georeferenced points with two parameters (speed and direction). The result is always valid 1hour before high... view reply
  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic Model of tide currents in INSPIRE?
    Hi Fanny, very interesting Use Case! Still trying to understand exactly what you're trying to provide, to my understanding the data is not measured but generated by a model. Does this model-output then refer to the result (not sure what... view reply
  • Fanny LECUY
    Fanny LECUY added a new discussion topic Model of tide currents in INSPIRE?
    Hi everyone, I am currently working on the transformation of models of tide currents along the French coast. Clearly the data falls under the OF scope I have no doubt about that. But as it is a model for tide currents the phenomenonTime is not...
    • Katharina SCHLEIDT

      By Katharina SCHLEIDT

      Hi Fanny,

      very interesting Use Case!

      Still trying to understand exactly what you're trying to provide, to my understanding the data is not measured but generated by a model. Does this model-output then refer to the result (not sure what the result is yet, please provide more info) that is always valid 1hr before high tide?

      To phenomenonTime - this is specified as TM_Object not TM_Instant (this is just one of the many TM_Types you can use), so you'll probably need one of the other TM_Types for your use case. The types derived from TM_Primitive all have a relativePosition attribute that seems relevant. Also, there's a TM_Duration Type in the UML Model.

      Look at temporal.xsd (or maybe temporalTopology.xsd), could well be something there that fits your needs

      :)

      Kathi

    • Fanny LECUY

      Hi Kathi,

      Thank you for the very prompt answer.

      Yes, the data is not measured but generated by a model. The result is a collection of georeferenced points with two parameters (speed and direction). The result is always valid 1hour before high tide with no matter to the real time of the high tide.

      I got confused because I overlooked the "SHOULD (even written in all caps) be encoded using the ISO8601" in the O&M guide about observation-time.

      I will look into the TM_Object world, thank you.

      Fanny

    • Katharina SCHLEIDT

      By Katharina SCHLEIDT

      Hi Fanny,

      if you do find something worthwhile, could you please share?

      Thanks!

      :)

      Kathi

  • Angel LOPEZ ALOS
    Dear All,  As you most probably know, the INSPIRE Conference 2020 was finally postponed due to the Covid-19 pandemic. Instead a series of virtual webinars will take place between 3th and 12th of June.  As part of this, on Friday...
  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic ProfileObservation and TrajectoryObservation valid for OF data?
    Hi Florian, as Angel is not that experienced in the O&M details, I've been doing my best to cover these aspects. However, we facilitators also cannot do much on these issues other than thematize them regularly with JRC in our meetings and... view reply
  • Florian Hoedt
    Florian Hoedt replied on the discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hello, I would like to directly escalate this to the Facilitator: Angel LOPEZ ALOS but the profile is private. I know there are currently a lot of more urgent issues to solve than getting data inspire harmonized, but we would like make... view reply
  • Florian Hoedt
    Florian Hoedt replied on the discussion topic ProfileObservation and TrajectoryObservation valid for OF data?
    Hello, I would like to directly escalate this to the Facilitator: Angel LOPEZ ALOS but the profile is private. I know there are currently a lot of more urgent issues to solve than getting data inspire harmonized, but we would like make... view reply
  • Florian Hoedt
    Florian Hoedt replied on the discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hello, The by Johanna Ott described data belongs to the thuenen instituts oceanografic dataset and WeTransform helps us to publish this dataset. I try to summarize the ideas in this thread and would like to get an official statement if these are... view reply
  • Florian Hoedt
    Florian Hoedt replied on the discussion topic ProfileObservation and TrajectoryObservation valid for OF data?
    Hello everybody, The described dataset above belongs to our hydrographic dataset listed here:... view reply
  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hi Johanna, I'd look at it from the alternative view - which of these featureTypes would you like to expose individually? For those you'll need endpoints, the rest you can nest. My assumption would be endpoints for: Observation... view reply
  • Johanna Ott
    Johanna Ott replied on the discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hi Kathi, Thank you for your feedback! This is really helpful information. While creating the data, I am now wondering if and how is legal to combine different schemas to deliver the according data via the same endpoint. I do agree, it... view reply
  • Johanna Ott
    Johanna Ott added a new discussion topic ProfileObservation and TrajectoryObservation valid for OF data?
    Hi everybody, I have to transform a German dataset to OF which is containing data that the data provider considers being omso:ProfileObservation Objects. The Data Specification states in Recommendation 6 "The following types from the GCM may be...
  • Katharina SCHLEIDT
    Katharina SCHLEIDT replied on the discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hi Johanna, First of, congratulations for understanding that OF implicitly includes EF :) hasObservation: In some use cases, this association can be very valuable (reason we added), but at the same time, it can become unmanageable. The... view reply
  • Johanna Ott
    Johanna Ott added a new discussion topic Implementation of relations from OF to EF and SR
    Hello everyone, I am currently realizing my first transformation of data to the INSPIRE OF Theme. The data contains observations taken by a vessel. During implementation, I ran into rather basic questions concerning the relations to the INSPIRE...
    • Katharina SCHLEIDT

      By Katharina SCHLEIDT

      Hi Johanna,

      I'd look at it from the alternative view - which of these featureTypes would you like to expose individually? For those you'll need endpoints, the rest you can nest.

      My assumption would be endpoints for:

      • Observation Types
      • Processes
      • Maybe Coverage if you want to expose the Result separately, but usually nested in the observation. I'd only do this if you're serving a really large coverage and want to link out to a WCS, don't think your profiles need that

      The gmlcovrgrid is logically nested within the Coverage, I don't see exposing the Array on its own.

      Does this help?

      :)

      Kathi

    • Florian Hoedt

      Hello,
      The by Johanna Ott described data belongs to the thuenen instituts oceanografic dataset and WeTransform helps us to publish this dataset.

      I try to summarize the ideas in this thread and would like to get an official statement if these are compliant to the specifications.

      We will create two endpoints (services):
      (a) EMF with the vessels used to sample the data. Those will hold the hasObservation link to (b) endpoints ProfileObservations
      (b) OF with ProfileObservations which use nested Processes Objects to properly describe the measurements. As parameter they link to service (a)´s EMFs. Additionally featureOfInterest will be filled by a SF_SamplingCurve instance, which will link to a foreign SeaRegion object in its sampledFeature.

      Others (BSH as far as I know) will provide the SeaRegion endpoint. But there is no SeaRegion currently and I would like to know how to model our dataset without this. Shall we use some kind of nilReason?

      Thanks,
      Florian

    • Florian Hoedt

      Hello,

      I would like to directly escalate this to the Facilitator: Angel LOPEZ ALOS but the profile is private.

      I know there are currently a lot of more urgent issues to solve than getting data inspire harmonized, but we would like make progress in this regard.

      yours,

      Florian Hoedt

  • Iurie MAXIM
    Iurie MAXIM replied on the discussion topic Atmospheric conditions and Meteorological geographical features
    Hi, Probably this thread, from one year and a half ago, may help: https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/forum/discussion/view/178144/ac-mf-default-encoding-in-tg It leads to https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/schemas/omso/3.0/ scheme. The AC-MF... view reply
  • Miroslav FANTA
    Miroslav FANTA added a new discussion topic Atmospheric conditions and Meteorological geographical features
    Dear colleagues,  The mapping table "Atmospheric Conditions and Meteorological Geographical Features Mapping Table" common for both themes Atmospheric conditions and Meteorological geographical features is empty. These themes...
  • Begoña Vila Taboada
    Begoña Vila Taboada replied on the discussion topic SeaBedArea and marine litter
    Hi again Keiran, The partners of the CleanAtlantic project are immersed ourselves in the discussion of what categories should be included in INSPIRE to deal with the issue of marine litter. For now, what is clear is that sea surface... view reply
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  • Keiran MILLARD
    Keiran MILLARD replied on the discussion topic OF or SR for a list of elements on the Sea Bottom?
    To add, I am not sure why MarineLayer (and also MarineContour) do not have an InspireID mandated.   view reply
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