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  • The UN-GGIM Europe Working Group on Core Data has published the first draft of the deliverable “Core Data Spatial theme ‘Regulated or Managed Areas’ Recommendations for content” that is based on user requirements and on the corresponding INSPIRE...
    • Stefania MORRONE
      Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic Implementation of multiple attributes
      Dear Miroslav, I understand your point of view, anyway I don't think your implementation proposal could be considered as INSPIRE compliant not even in the future. Moreover, consider that currently most software tools are not able to... view reply
      • Miroslav FANTA
        Miroslav FANTA replied on the discussion topic Implementation of multiple attributes
        Dear Stefania, Thank you for your reply. It means, if using of multiple attributes is intended, then gml data format has to be used only. Unfortunately, I am affraid, such situation is not comfortable for many data providers and data users... view reply
        • Stefania MORRONE
          Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic Implementation of multiple attributes
          Dear Miroslav, generally speaking, a property with multiplicity (1..*) can appear 1 or multiple times in the same spatial object (specific <gml:featureMember> or <wfs:member>). Let's say, as an example, that one wants to... view reply
          • Miroslav FANTA
            Miroslav FANTA added a new discussion topic Implementation of multiple attributes
            Dear colleagues,  I am looking for an example how multiple attributes should be implemented. In the spatial object type "ManagementRestrictionOrRegulationZone", many attributes have the multiplicity 1..* or 0..* (e.g. thematicId,...
              • Stefania MORRONE

                By Stefania MORRONE

                Dear Miroslav,

                generally speaking, a property with multiplicity (1..*) can appear 1 or multiple times in the same spatial object (specific <gml:featureMember> or <wfs:member>).

                Let's say, as an example, that one wants to provide two names and two zone type values for the same ManagementRestrictionOrRegulationZone spatial object e.g. "AM_1". The GML would look like the following :

                 <gml:featureMember>

                <am:ManagementRestrictionOrRegulationZone gml:id="AM_1">
                      <am:inspireId> ... </am:inspireId>
                      <am:thematicId>.... </am:thematicId>
                      <am:name>
                        <gn:GeographicalName>
                          <gn:language>eng</gn:language>
                          <gn:nativeness xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:nameStatus xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:sourceOfName xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:pronunciation xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:spelling>
                            <gn:SpellingOfName>
                              <gn:text>Name1</gn:text>
                              <gn:script xsi:nil="true"/>
                            </gn:SpellingOfName>
                          </gn:spelling>
                        </gn:GeographicalName> 
                      </am:name>
                      <am:name>
                        <gn:GeographicalName>
                          <gn:language>ger</gn:language>
                          <gn:nativeness xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:nameStatus xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:sourceOfName xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:pronunciation xsi:nil="true"/>
                          <gn:spelling>
                            <gn:SpellingOfName>
                              <gn:text>Name2</gn:text>
                              <gn:script xsi:nil="true"/>
                            </gn:SpellingOfName>
                          </gn:spelling>
                        </gn:GeographicalName>   
                      </am:name>    
                      <am:geometry> ...    
                      </am:geometry>
                      <am:zoneType xlink:href="http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/ZoneTypeCode/value1"></am:zoneType>
                      <am:zoneType xlink:href="http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/ZoneTypeCode/value2"></am:zoneType>

                      ....

                  </gml:featureMember>

                Hope this helps

                Stefania

                 

                • Miroslav FANTA

                  By Miroslav FANTA

                  Dear Stefania,

                  Thank you for your reply. It means, if using of multiple attributes is intended, then gml data format has to be used only. Unfortunately, I am affraid, such situation is not comfortable for many data providers and data users at all, because in most cases, shapefile or geodatabase are widely used as basic spatial data formats. In both shapefile and geodatabase formats, two or more attributes with identical names are not allowed. If the gml file containing multiple attributes with identical names is converted to shapefile or to geodatabase feature class, these attributes are renamed during the conversion process by adding suffix "_1", "_2", etc.

                  It is a pity that multiple attributes cannot be solved by relation from attribute table to external table containing multiple values for given multiple attribute. E.g., if spatial data should contain multiple values of zoneType attribute, then the spatial dataset will have one zoneType attribute only and this atribute will contain link (relation) to external table, in which multiple values of zoneType are stored. By that way, multiple attributes could be implemented also for shapefiles and geodatabases. Do you think, this solution could be considered as INSPIRE compatible in the future?

                  Best wishes

                  Miroslav

                   

                  • Stefania MORRONE

                    By Stefania MORRONE

                    Dear Miroslav,

                    I understand your point of view, anyway I don't think your implementation proposal could be considered as INSPIRE compliant not even in the future.

                    Moreover, consider that currently most software tools are not able to resolve the xlinks (both internal and external) in the gml dataset , and this would constitute a 'side effect' of your proposal to be duly taken into account.

                    Best regards,

                    Stefania

                     

                     

                     

                  • Peter MCKEAGUE
                    Peter MCKEAGUE added a new discussion topic Call for papers:Towards a Spatial Data infrastructure for Archaeology
                    Where:  -   European Archaeological Association Bern, Switzerland When:   4-7 September 2019 Through the INSPIRE Directive public organisations across Europe are required to share environmentally-related spatial...
                    • Stefania MORRONE
                      Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic Drinking Water Directive - Water Supply Zones
                      Dear Miroslav, the solution is acceptable. Stefania   view reply
                      • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                        Beatriz Caro Gadea replied on the discussion topic inspireld
                        Hi Kate!  no I didn´t do it !! yes that was the problem...thank so much indeed!   have a nice day view reply
                        • Kate Lyndegaard
                          Kate Lyndegaard replied on the discussion topic inspireld
                          Hi Beatriz, I can see that you have loaded your source and target schemas. Have you loaded your source data? You should see the number of loaded features beside the feature type. Please see the following screenshot: The feature type... view reply
                          • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                            Beatriz Caro Gadea replied on the discussion topic inspireld
                            Thanks Stefania you have been very helpfull!!! I have an other problem with the  transformation on hale, I finished the mapping setting up all the relation between source schema and target schema but when i try to exporting as gml it... view reply
                            • Stefania MORRONE
                              Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic inspireld
                              Hi Beatriz, you have to map each single inspireId subfield i.e. in the alignment,  you have to provide a 'mapping cell' for the localId, one for the namespace and (optionally) one for the version. you cannot (and don't need... view reply
                              • Miroslav FANTA
                                Miroslav FANTA replied on the discussion topic Drinking Water Directive - Water Supply Zones
                                Dear Stefania, thank you very much for your prompt reply. Concerning Zone Type Code attribute, using of suggested "drinkingWaterProtectionArea" codelist item could be considered as problematic from the first point of view, because... view reply
                                • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                                  Beatriz Caro Gadea replied on the discussion topic inspireld
                                  • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                                    Beatriz Caro Gadea added a new discussion topic inspireld
                                    Good morning?? how can I get the inspireld on hale studio, I´ve tried using the fuction Inspire Identifier but it set is deprecated, so i´m a bit confused now and also how can I set up the cardinality on the source...
                                      • Beatriz Caro Gadea

                                        By Beatriz Caro Gadea

                                        Thanks Stefania you have been very helpfull!!!

                                        I have an other problem with the  transformation on hale, I finished the mapping setting up all the relation between source schema and target schema but when i try to exporting as gml it doesn´t allow me and also on the workbench 'transformation' it doesn´t appear anything, I mean this:

                                        I´ve checked out an example training and I could see this:

                                         

                                         

                                        I don´t what I am doing wrong.

                                        Thank you in advance!

                                        • Kate Lyndegaard

                                          By Kate Lyndegaard

                                          Hi Beatriz,
                                          I can see that you have loaded your source and target schemas. Have you loaded your source data?

                                          You should see the number of loaded features beside the feature type. Please see the following screenshot:




                                          The feature type HydroNode has data loaded. The feature type WatercourseLink does not.
                                          Once you have loaded your source data and enabled live transformation, you should be able to export your gml file.

                                          Kind regards,
                                          Kate Lyndegaard

                                          wetransform Gmbh
                                          www.wetransform.to

                                          • Beatriz Caro Gadea

                                            By Beatriz Caro Gadea

                                            Hi Kate!  no I didn´t do it !! yes that was the problem...thank so much indeed!

                                             

                                            have a nice day

                                          • Stefania MORRONE
                                            Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic Drinking Water Directive - Water Supply Zones
                                            Hi Miroslaw, the water supply zones are "areas managed" under the Drinking Water Directive and well fit the scope of the Area Management / restriction / regulation zones & reporting units INSPIRE data theme. Regarding the... view reply
                                            • Miroslav FANTA
                                              Miroslav FANTA added a new discussion topic Drinking Water Directive - Water Supply Zones
                                              Our institution CENIA (Czech Environmental Information Agency) is responsible for coordination of INSPIRE acitivities in the Czech Republic. Providers of DWD data in our country asked us for support concerning the preparation of Water...
                                                • Stefania MORRONE

                                                  By Stefania MORRONE

                                                  Hi Miroslaw,

                                                  the water supply zones are "areas managed" under the Drinking Water Directive and well fit the scope of the Area Management / restriction / regulation zones & reporting units INSPIRE data theme.

                                                  Regarding the geometry representation, the AM Data Specification state that "Typically the representation of the geometry of a ManagementRestrictionOrRegulationZone shall be either a GM_Surface or GM_MultiSurface. However, it has been recognised that at some levels of detail the geometry may be represented as either a GM_Point or GM_Curve.Consequently, any constraints on the geometry representation have been removed".

                                                  This means that point geometry can be used because in this case it corresponds to the level of detail of the source data set .

                                                  Regarding the Zone Type code, the http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/ZoneTypeCode/drinkingWaterProtectionArea is the value to use.

                                                  To further specify that the source data set contains water supply zones under the Drinking Water Directive, the specialisedZoneType attribute (optional attribute) could be used. In fact, this attribute is meant to provide an additional value to further specialise the type of zone specified in the zoneType element. 

                                                  The specialisedZoneType can contain any value defined by data provider (as long as it is made available in a public register – ref. Article 6(3) of the Implementing Rules).

                                                  More specifically, the http://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/SpecialisedZoneTypeCode does not contain any value (empty code list). The AM Data Specification state that the values for the specialisedZoneTypeshould be derived from relevant domain-specific controlled vocabulary, where available". An extension of the INSPIRE code list SpecialisedZoneTypeCode is provided in the Eionet Data Dictionary, but currently it does not contain any value for water supply zones under DWD (read more on the specialisedZoneTypeCode in this Thematic Cluster post.).

                                                  Regarding the WMS layer,  follow what specified in Sec 11.1 of the Data Specification for the layer AM.DrinkingWaterProtectionArea and in Sec 11.2.7 for the style relevant to abovementioned layer (for points, the geometry is rendered  as a square with a size of 6 pixels, with a light blue(#BED2FF) fill and a black outline).

                                                  Hope this helps

                                                  Stefania
                                                   

                                                   

                                                  • Miroslav FANTA

                                                    By Miroslav FANTA

                                                    Dear Stefania,

                                                    thank you very much for your prompt reply.

                                                    Concerning Zone Type Code attribute, using of suggested "drinkingWaterProtectionArea" codelist item could be considered as problematic from the first point of view, because meaning of the drinking water protection area (= area from which the drinking water is taken) is different from the water supply zone (= area supplied by drinking water). On the other hand, if appropriate clarification is provided in the specialisedZoneType attribute (for example: "water supply zone (DWD)") and if we consider, that no more suitable value is available in the ZoneType codelist, then suggested solution is OK.

                                                    I have just one additional question (which could be relevant also for other Area management topics) - if polygon dataset is provided by country within this theme, is it allowed to use overlapping polygons?

                                                    Example: agglomerations A, B and C are served by drinking water sources 1 and 2. Out of this, agglomeration A is served by source 1 only, agglomeration C is served by source 2 only and agglomeration B is served by water mixed from both sources 1 + 2. In such case, water supply zone relevant for drinking water source 1 includes agglomerations A + B and water supply zone relevant for drinking water source 2 includes agglomerations B + C. If the water supply zones are represented by polygons, these polygons will overlapp in the area of agglomeration B. Is such solution acceptable?

                                                    Miroslav

                                                    • Stefania MORRONE

                                                      By Stefania MORRONE

                                                      Dear Miroslav,

                                                      the solution is acceptable.

                                                      Stefania

                                                       

                                                    • Stefania MORRONE
                                                      Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic hale studio
                                                      Hi Beatriz, you can connect hale studio directly to PostGis Database ... no need to use csv or any other format. You might find it useful to follow the tutorials on the INSPIRE Knowledge Base... view reply
                                                      • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                                                        Beatriz Caro Gadea added a new discussion topic hale studio
                                                        Hi all! I´ve got all my Inspire tables made on postgis and I don´t know really what to do right now, what´s the next step? shall i export them as csv document from postgis??   thank you
                                                        • Beatriz Caro Gadea
                                                          Beatriz Caro Gadea replied on the discussion topic Habitats and bitopes
                                                          Yes Stefania, you´ve been very helpful, thank you very much. Do you know where is possible to find a real example to see if I am doing it well??   Nice day! view reply
                                                          • Stefania MORRONE
                                                            Stefania MORRONE replied on the discussion topic Habitats and bitopes
                                                            Yes Beatriz , you could also provide the label of the code list value in the <xlink: title> element. In your case , this means that in the GML dataset you have <hb:referenceSpeciesId xlink:href="... view reply
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